290 de case din ansamblul AZUR vor fi decuplati de la energia electrica de catre dezvoltatorul IMPACT
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From: Dorin Ionescu
Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:33 PM
Subject: possible infringement of EU law - mesaj trimis de catre EU catre Guvernul Romaniei
To: Iulian Urban <iulian.urban@gmail.com>
http://www.sfin.ro/articol_18758/razboiul_curentului_electric_din_pipera_a_ajuns_la_bruxelles.html
Iata raspunsul de la CE pentru deschiderea clauzei de infrigment pe Romania.
Se pare ca CONSILIUL EUROPEI nu GLUMESTE cand e vorba de DREPTURILE CETATENILOR COMUNITARI.
“Dear Mr. Antonescu,
I just wanted to let you know that our Director General has now addressed a letter to the Romanian government explaining your situation and pointing to a possible infringement of EU law. We asked for a response within three weeks and will keep you informed.
Kind regards”
traducere :
Domnule Antonescu ,
Doresc sa va informez faptul ca Directorul nostru General a adresat o scrisoare catre Guvernul Romaniei ,explicand situatia Dvs. punctand pentru o posibila deschidere a clauzei de infrigment a legii pentru energie .
Am solicitat raspuns in max 3 saptamani si va vom tine la curent
Cu stima ,
Florian Ermacora
From: "Florian.ERMACORA@ec.europa.eu" <Florian.ERMACORA@ec.europa.eu>
Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 9:55:59 AM
Subject: RE: electrical energy
EUROPEAN COMMISSION
Directorate-General for Energy and Transport
Unit C2 Electricity & Gas
Rue de Mot 24 – 6/115
B-1049 Bruxelles - Belgium
Tel (32-2) 2985126
Fax (32-2) 2956105
<mailto:florian.ermacora@ec.europa..eu>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:41 PM
To: ERMACORA Florian (TREN)
Subject: Re: electrical energy
From: "Florian.ERMACORA@ec.europa.eu" <Florian.ERMACORA@ec.europa.eu>
Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 7:40:24 PM
Subject: RE: electrical energy
EUROPEAN COMMISSION
Directorate-General for Energy and Transport
Unit C2 Electricity & Gas
Rue de Mot 24 – 6/115
B-1049 Bruxelles - Belgium
Tel (32-2) 2985126
Fax (32-2) 2956105
<mailto:florian.ermacora@ec.europa.eu>
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 10:57 AM
To: ERMACORA Florian (TREN)
Subject: Fw: electrical energy
Dear Mister Florian Ermacora,
Firstly, we express our thanks to you for your interest in our problem.
Secondly, we kindly ask you to tell us which are the next steps, because in Romania it is winter now and unfortunately we live with the threat of not having electrical energy if we do not sign the contracts with the constructor Impact, in spite of the fact that we have submitted the necessary documents to the authorized supplier of electrical energy Enel Muntenia Sud, in order to conclude the contracts for electrical energy with this authorized supplier and we have paid the necessary fees in this respect, since already 2 years ago (the documents were submitted and fees were paid in November- December 2007).
Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter.
Yours sincerely,
Asociatia de Proprietari Class (Association of Homeowners “Class”).
Adina Coca 07.12.2009
From: "Florian.ERMACORA@ec.europa.eu" <Florian.ERMACORA@ec.europa.eu>
Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 5:40:26 PM
Subject: RE: electrical energy
Dear Mr. Coca,
I just wanted to inform you that we have received the different pieces of information from your side and , had it, where necessary, translated.
Within short we will inform you about the next steps to be taken on this issue.
Kind regards
Florian Ermacora
EUROPEAN COMMISSION
Directorate-General for Energy and Transport
Unit C2 Electricity & Gas
Rue de Mot 24 – 6/115
B-1049 Bruxelles - Belgium
Tel (32-2) 2985126
Fax (32-2) 2956105
<mailto:florian.ermacora@ec.europa.eu>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:25 AM
To: ERMACORA Florian (TREN)
Subject: electrical energy
ASSOCIATION OF HOMEOWNERS "CLASS "
RESIDENTIAL COMPOUND "CLASS"
1H PIPERA BOULEVARD
VOLUNTARI CITY , ILFOV COUNTY
FISCAL CODE 25230331 98 /28.10.2009
To the European Commission
To the attention of Mrs.ANA ARANA ANTELO
Mr. FLORIAN ERMACORA
Dear Madam, Dear Sir,
We thank you for the interest shown in resolving the issue we have concerning the electrical energy and the impossibility of signing individual contracts with the chosen supplier and distributor.
Briefly, the situation is as follows:
1/ 202 owners bought houses, together with the land and electricity networks, from the company Impact, a construction company. We mention that the electricity networks are valued between 9,000 and 17,880 euros/house, as stated in the individual construction contracts, and pass through our properties.
2/ in November 2007, we forwarded to the distributor of electricity Electrica Muntenia Sud, requests to obtain branching approvals, in order to sign individual contracts for electricity. We attach the registration number of such requests. We have yet to receive a reply to these requests.
3/ in November 2008, Impact obtained from the National Authority for Regulation of Energy (hereinafter abbreviated "ANRE") a distribution tariff, breaching ANRE's own Order 3/2007, which stipulates that such tariff can be obtained by an economic agent that has in its own property, or has a leasing contract or free of charge use (commodate) agreement for, the network for which the distribution tariff applies. Impact does not have and did not put forward any documents that certify this property, or any other contract or agreement, in accordance with the condition mentioned by ANRE's Order 3/2007.
4/ by awarding the distribution tariff, ANRE in effect pronounced itself in respect of the right of ownership over the homeowners' electricity networks, without having the right to do so, thus breaching the homeowners' right of ownership.
Moreover, by awarding the distribution tariff to Impact, ANRE in effect tolerated the breach, by the principal distribution operator Electrica Muntenia Sud and by Impact, of the provisions of the Establishing Treaty of the European Community, article 81, paragraph 1, Title VI - Common norms regarding legislative competition, taxation and harmonizing.
5/ the homeowners submitted petitions to obtain branching approvals only to the principal distribution operator Electrica Muntenia Sud (in November 2007) and subsequently to its successor Enel Muntenia Sud (in May 2009). The awarding by ANRE of the distribution tariff to Impact should have been preceded by the principal distribution operator Electrica Muntenia Sud approving Impact's branching. However, the branching approval 1704/4.11.2008, used by Impact to obtain the distribution tariff, was in fact issued by the principal distribution operator Electrica Muntenia Sud after ANRE had already released the decision for awarding the distribution tariff to Impact, as shown by the dates of the respective documets, and moreover in the absence of the 202 petitions of homeowners which are necessary according to law for branching to the so called Impact network.
6/ ANRE is the authority in charge of regulating any resulting issues and at the same time insuring the consumers' protection, nevertheless, aided by ANRE, Impact became a distributor and later, by agreement with Enel, was also given clients in order to be granted access to a distribution market, a situation which should have taken into account the interests and free will of the consumers to branch themselves to one network or another.
7/ because of this breach of consumers' rights, the situation has reached a stage where we, the homeowners, are threatened and blackmailed with being cut off from the energy supply, unless we sign the contracts with Impact, contracts which are not in the interest of the homeowners from the residential compound Class and which are damaging to their property rights, given that all homeowners have paid for the electricity network and this network crosses the private properties of the consumers of electricity from the residential compound Class.
Most respectfully,
ASSOCIATION OF HOMEOWNERS CLASS,
Adina Coca 28.10.2009
Reclamati abuzurile la adresa office@asistentapentruconsumatori.ro sau la adresa Senatorului : iulian.urban@gmail.com
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asistentapentruconsumatori.ro said
am January 28 2010 @ 11:14 am
Reclamati abuzurile la care sunteti supusi la office@asistentapentruconsumatori.ro
Lupta noastra a celor de la Asociatia http://www.AsistentaPentruConsumatori.ro se duce impotriva abuzurilor la care sunt supusi consumatorii romani.
Pentru asta avem nevoie ca voi, sa ne scrieti despre fraudele sau abuzurile la care sunteti supusi de catre comercianti sau autoritati.
Noi preluam sesizarile voastre si ne luptam pentru ca drepturile sa va fie recunoscute.
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am January 28 2010 @ 11:15 am
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Locuiesc in Azur said
am January 28 2010 @ 1:22 pm
Domnule Senator,
Nu aveti o abordare corecta/completa in problema cartierului Azur construit de Impact!
In “problema” sunt 4 parti:
* Impact, care vrem -nu vrem, detine retelele electrice, conform Justitiei
* Proprietarii cu datorii foarte mari, din cazua carora s-a deteriorat viata in cartiere ca Azur sau Class
* Proprietarii fara datorii si cu contracte in regula (MAJORITARI!)
* Autoritatile care nu se implica (sau nu mai vor, cum ar fi Politia Voluntari, care nu mai vine cand este chemata in Azur sau Class)
Noua, care nu avem niciun fel de restante sau datorii, nu ne-ati cerut niciodata parerea, ati publicat doar pe scandalagii (28 de pers din 293 cati suntem in Azur!!!).
Stiati ca printre datornici sunt nume ca Patrichi (de la Dansez pentru tine, care are 8 case si nu a platit NICIODATA vreo factura???)
Stiati ca ORICE comentariu impotriva celor rau-platnici pe net, la ORICE articol despre subiect, este imediat “sufocat” de comentaii (uneori injurioase) ale celor datornici, care unii dintre ei nu lucreaza, traiesc doar din banii primiti de la restul vecinilor “sa-i reprezinte”?
Stiati ca ANRE a acordat licenta Impact pentru furnizare in cartierele unde este cazul, dar in Azur nu se aduna cei 3 GW necesari conform legii (Deci nu e nevoie de licenta)?
Stiati ca in Azur platim doar 0,25 RON/KW, probabil CEL MAI MIC TARIF din Bucuresti? Asta este tariful practicat de Impact, deci nu se pune problema de facturi “umflate”, ci DIMPOTRIVA!
Stiati ca din cauza scandalului produs de cei 28 de proprietari cu datorii de sute de milioane, nu mai avem paza, iluminat stradal, Politia nu mai vine la sesizari ca “s-a saturat”, si PRETUL LOCUINTELOR A SCAZUT! O VILA in Azur abia se inchiriaza cu 500 de euro, adica pretul unei garsoniere in zona de nord!!! Toate astea din cauza ca o mana de rau-platnici ne-a distrus viata in Azur!
Cand mai scrieti articole ca asta, consultati si proprietarii MAJORITARI, care nu vor sa fie “reprezentati” de infractori precum Antonescu, a carui “asociatie” a fost desfiintata irevocabil in justitie de noi, majoritatea locuitorilor!!!
impact said
am January 28 2010 @ 2:50 pm
D-le care “locuiesti in Azur”:
1. impact nu detine retelele electrice, nu are nici un act de proprietate, Impact trebuie sa predea retelele electrice la Enel, asa cum s-a anjajat in scris !
2. Daca unii proprietari au datorii de ce impact nu ii debranseaza numai pe acestia, asa cum e logic si normal ? Fiindca atunci cand vin sa-i debranseze proprietarii cheama politia si angajatii impact fug ! De mentionat ca proprietarii respectivi nu au datorii la gaze, cablu tv, telefon, etc, ci numai la impact deoarece nu vor sa plateasca niste facturi “umflate” si nejustificate !
3. Proprieatrii fara datorii vor acelasi lucru: sa scape de hotii de la impact ! Eu nu am datorii la ei, asta nu inseamna ca le voi accepta la infinit modul banditesc si teroarea prin care imi fura bani luna de luna !
4. Politia chiar se implica, cand vin cei de la impact hoteste sa taie curentul, daca este chemata politia, banditii de la impact fug !
5. ANRE nu va da niciodata licenta impact pentru ca nu pot indeplini conditiile !
6. Repet, eu NU am datorii, dar nici nu vreau sa fiu inselat si umilit de impact la nesfarsit, pe banii mei !
Si cu majoritatea lasati-o mai usor, daca va strangeti mai mult de 10 (ZECE) iubitori de impact din 290, eu nu voi mai pblica niciodata nimic rau (dar ADEVARAT !) despre impact !
Adrian Antonescu said
am January 28 2010 @ 3:20 pm
imi permit sa fac niste corecturi distinsului locuitor din AZur care nu stiu din ce motiv isi declina orice identitate :
Domnule Senator,
Nu aveti o abordare corecta/completa in problema cartierului Azur construit de Impact!
In “problema” sunt 4 parti:
* Impact, care vrem -nu vrem, detine retelele electrice, conform Justitiei – NU DETINE NICI-O RETEA SAU MAI CORECT NU MAI DETINE DECAT TERENUL DE SUB DRUM DAR SI ACESTA ESTE GREVAT DE SARCINI
* Proprietarii cu datorii foarte mari, din cazua carora s-a deteriorat viata in cartiere ca Azur sau Class – COMPLET INEXACT – ACESTI PROPRIETRI NU AU NICI-O RESTANTA LA GAZE , TELEFONIE , INTERNET SI ALTE SERVICII CONTRACTATE CU UN RAPORT JURIDIC RECUNOSCUT.
* Proprietarii fara datorii si cu contracte in regula (MAJORITARI!)AR TREBUI CA DISTINSUL LOCUITOR SA MAI CONSULTE LISTA DE LA IMPACT SI SA OBSERVE CA SUNT IN ACEST MOMENT PESTE 200 DE PROPRIETARI CARE NU MAI DORESC SA PLATEASCA LA IMPACT NISTE SERVICII CARE NU I-AU FOST SOLICITATE SI CARE NICI NU AU TEMEI LEGAL
* Autoritatile care nu se implica (sau nu mai vor, cum ar fi Politia Voluntari, care nu mai vine cand este chemata in Azur sau Class)POLITIA VOLUNTARI S-A IMPLICAT TOT TIMPUL – DOVADA STAU INTERVENTIILE FATA DE IMPACT PRIN CARE I-AU DAT AFARA DIN ANSAMBL LA TOATE INTERVETIILE SALE TOTAL ILEGALE
Noua, care nu avem niciun fel de restante sau datorii, nu ne-ati cerut niciodata parerea, ati publicat doar pe scandalagii (28 de pers din 293 cati suntem in Azur!!!).DIN PACATE NUMARUL SCANDALAGIILR ESTE MAI MARE
Stiati ca printre datornici sunt nume ca Patrichi (de la Dansez pentru tine, care are 8 case si nu a platit NICIODATA vreo factura???)TOTAL INEXACT – DOMNUL CORNELPATRICHI ARE NUMAI O SINGURA CASA IN ANSAMBLUL AUR – CEL DIN LISTA DE LA IMPACT ESTE P[ATICHI TEODOR CRISTIAN – DISTISUL LOCAAR SA SOLICITENISTE DIOPTRII MAI MARI
Stiati ca ORICE comentariu impotriva celor rau-platnici pe net, la ORICE articol despre subiect, este imediat “sufocat” de comentaii (uneori injurioase) ale celor datornici, care unii dintre ei nu lucreaza, traiesc doar din banii primiti de la restul vecinilor “sa-i reprezinte”?AICI PROBLEMA STA EXCA INVERS – NIMENI DIN CEI CARE CONTESTA NUA FOST SI NICI NU ESTE PLATIT DE CATRE VECINI – TOTUL A FOST NUMAI VOLUNTARIAT ( CA DIN ACEST MOTIV TRAIM IN VOLUNTARI ) – STIU CA ETE GREU DE CREZUT DAR SE PARE CA MAI EXISTA SI OAMENI CU PRINCIPII NU NUMAI CU INTERESE CA SI DISTINSL NOSTRU COLEG DE ANSAMBLU
Stiati ca ANRE a acordat licenta Impact pentru furnizare in cartierele unde este cazul, dar in Azur nu se aduna cei 3 GW necesari conform legii (Deci nu e nevoie de licenta)?PENTRU TARIF ESTE OBLIGATORIU SUB 3 MW DAR CONDITIILE DIN ANSAMBLU DEPASESC ACEASTA CONDITIE -MAI AES PE ATR SEMNAT PE 47 DE CASE !!CAND NOI SUNTEM 290 DE CASE DAR PE ASA ZISELE FACTURI DE LA MPACT APAR CAD 288 CAND 289 DAR NICIODATA 290 – ARITMEICA STE UN LUCU REU DAR PUTEM SOLICITA AJUTOR DE A PITAGORA
Stiati ca in Azur platim doar 0,25 RON/KW, PE CE LINIE DE ALIMENTARE ? probabil CEL MAI MIC TARIF din Bucuresti? Asta este tariful practicat de Impact, deci nu se pune problema de facturi “umflate”, ci DIMPOTRIVA!LA MINE APARE CAND 0,39 CAND 0,38 LEI/KWATT DAR PE LINIA DE JOASE – ESTE FOARTE IMPORTANT DE STIUT CA LA MINE NU S-A CITIT CONTOARUL ASA CA NU STIU CARE ESTE CONSUMUL REAL . LA SOLICITAREA MEA CATRE IMPACT MI S-A COMUNICT CA ACEST CONSUM ESTE UNUL MEDIU LA PAUSAL . IN 2010 POATE DISTINSUL NOSRU COLEG DORESTE ASA CEVA – ESTE OPTIUNEA LUISI O RESPECT –
Stiati ca din cauza scandalului produs de cei 28 de proprietari cu datorii de sute de milioane, nu mai avem paza, iluminat stradal, Politia nu mai vine la sesizari ca “s-a saturat”, si PRETUL LOCUINTELOR A SCAZUT! O VILA in Azur abia se inchiriaza cu 500 de euro, adica pretul unei garsoniere in zona de nord!!! Toate astea din cauza ca o mana de rau-platnici ne-a distrus viata in Azur! NU MAI AVEM PAZA , CURATENIE SI ADMISTRATIE TOCMAI DATORITA FAPTULUYI CAIMPACT PRIN FIRMA WELWEIT A DESFIINTAT PERSONALITATEA JURIDICA A ASOCIATIEI DE PROPRIETARI CARE A FOST LEGAL CONSTITUITA PRINTR-O DECIZIE DEFINITIVA SI IREVOCABILA – AVEM TERMEN DE RECURS SI CONTESTATIE
Cand mai scrieti articole ca asta, consultati si proprietarii MAJORITARI, care nu vor sa fie “reprezentati” de infractori precum Antonescu, a carui “asociatie” a fost desfiintata irevocabil in justitie de noi, majoritatea locuitorilor!!!
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